The Upstaging Gentlemen

* Note: This episode , while we love the content, has moments of terrible audio difficulty. We still wanted to release this episode because we enjoyed the content, and enough listeners encouraged us to do a release despite the audio problems.  We apologize for the inconvenience as you listen. 

In this episode, Nathan and Michael welcome guest star John Guminiak. John is a stand up comedian, musician, magician and painter. Michael, Nathan, and John discuss recovering from a failure. 

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